Venn diagrams for our times: what would make people vote

Posted on December 31 2013

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  1. Stephen Hyde says:
    December 31 2013 at 11:16 am

    The last time that happened the Tories won 4 elections in a row.

    In the other diagram where there is no difference between the parties, Labour won 3 elections in a row and somehow managed to prevent the Tories winning the fourth.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  2. Richard says:
    December 31 2013 at 12:05 pm

    A further circle separate to those two, not to either side (implying left or right) but maybe hovering above taking the higher ground)and labelled “Credible Alternative” would make people vote even more.

    This will have to emerge in 2014. It is a critical 12 months for everyone.

  3. Simon says:
    December 31 2013 at 4:53 pm

    It looks likely that UKIP will get the vote of the pissed -off simply because it is not the others. Compared to say Germany we have almost no political parties especially since the demise of the left/right paradigm. Anyone seriously concerned about the neo-liberal hegemony is effectively disenfranchised -in short, we have fascism in nascent form.

  4. Nicholas says:
    December 31 2013 at 11:38 pm

    Thank you Richard for helping to keep my spirits up in 2013. More importantly thank you helping me form my ramblings and rantings into more cohesive arguments (with facts and figures) which I have passed on in conversation. Perhaps the word will spread.

    • Richard Murphy says:
      January 1 2014 at 6:53 am

      Thank you

      I admit to genuine surprise when people say that

      I’ll candidly admit that I make sense of the world through my finger tips. I’ll also admit I do not always succeed. That these musings are of benefit has always been a matter of surprise. But I appreciate you saying so.

      Happy new year

  5. William1 says:
    January 2 2014 at 12:27 am

    While I understand your hopes, I doubt either party can fulfill them. The disillusion with party politics & the increasing disgust at the hopelessness of MPs are both symptoms of the same cause.

    Look, back in the day, Tory MPs tended to have been in charge of companies (sometimes, lnbatb, rather dodgy ones), while Labour MPs had been in charge of Trade Unions (again sometimes less than straight). Those MPs weren’t, necessarily, decent, honorable or intelligent men, but they were men of a certain acumen who’d knocked around the world before they decided to become MPs, so they did know about real-life.

    These days, my “representative” is likely to be a shiny, happy little beast in a red/blue or yellow roseatte whose experience of life is being interested in politics at university, then being a Parliamentary researcher, then, perhaps, writing speeches & now, HAPPY DAY, being selected to represent a seat.

    Well, sorry, in my case, I want Birmingham represented by someone who has at least some, small, understanding of real life.

    • Richard Murphy says:
      January 2 2014 at 5:59 am

      I have a lot of sympathy with that

      I could irritate some, but I rather like the US Senate age limit – although 40 may be too high

      For those younger with passion to serve local authorities are valuable too

      Being an MP should be a second career in my view

      But maybe I am showing my age

  6. Simon says:
    January 3 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I’m worried about the ‘rentier’ M.P.s who pocket the salaries/expenses to the hilt whilst receiving huge remunerations from land/property speculation and ownership.

    Politicians are not trusted and rightly so -our parliamentary system is past its sell-by-date and we need to work towards another form of representation that is better.

  7. JohnM says:
    January 4 2014 at 9:57 am

    ¨we need to work towards another form of representation that is better¨

    Or work towards altering the present system to ensure it works as it is meant to, instead of working the way its present occupants want it to:

    http://harrogateagenda.org.uk/

    And from another blog, which may be disliked here:

    ¨British politicians do not run Britain. This is why no matter who is elected in this country, on the substantive issues nothing changes because they do not have control over those issues. This is not a sovereign country. Our control over the laws in this country has been lost, our control over the taxes payable in this country has been lost. Whether most stay-away voters realise this or not, they do at least see that voting changes nothing and is not a worthwhile exercise. More people are joining their ranks. The disengaged is a growing constituency. The only solution is a wholesale change of the system where the people hold the power, not the political class¨

    http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/representative-democracy-the-disengaged/