During questioning the panel were asked about the current economic situation and I, of course, outlined ways in which a stimulus could be provided to ensure that we got out of recession.
Jesse Norman would have none of that. Quite astonishingly he suggested we might have to accept that the current situation is as good as things will get. 2.5 million unemployed people might be inevitable, he implied. Falling personal incomes for the vast majority will be the legacy of this government. Ruined government services are our best hope: he certainly made clear he wanted more cuts. Inevitably, although he did not say it, corporate failure will continue.
And then he said that he did not recognise my description of the cowardly state and the need for the alternative: a courageous state.
Well he might not recognise the cowardliness of his position, but I think it's my duty to draw it to the attention of others.