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When do you think Keir Starmer is most likely to leave office? Might you let me know?
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Starmer will hang on like the recalcitrant turd he is but the Green Wave in May will force his hand.
Starmer is an empty vessel. He will remain under the control of the MacSweeney, Reed, Mandelson, South London mafia faction. They will cling on by their fingernails as long as possible and be happy to accept any US neoliberal aid on offer. I voted 2029 as I am sure they are intent on staying in power until then, when they will have their Starmer replacement ready. Don’t underestimate them. They are a bunch of crooks. Don’t forget the rigged voting systems for candidate selection they used until they had control of the NEC and all the undeclared donations.
Who takes his place? Voters don’t like new leaders when they voted for someone else. Especially if they are new Labour leaders.
To be honest, it is increasingly hard to take this whole thing seriously? I means, it’s mess isn’t it? A time for contrition maybe from Starmer? A chance to go out on a high, on an epiphany of sorts? Rediscover some ‘vim’?
Damn it: I’ve not even been able to convince myself that that is remotely possible.
So here come the Tories again (and Reform) with another free ride into power, because Labour just cannot bring itself to stop accommodating Thatcherism can it? It thinks it can improve it, give it a human face like the old communists who dreamt of a kinder form of Stalinism.
Wrong! You cannot contain Thatcherism. You cannot ‘improve it’. It is what it is and it destroys everything in the end. Like all extremism.
I didn’t vote. I think HE will try and hang on till May hoping to turn it round, and possibly try stuffing Epstein genies back into their lamps. That won’t be easy – the latest rumour is that Epstein is alive and in Israel?!?
I think the PLP want rid of Starmer but haven’t a clue what to do – so few of them are genuine Labour MPs, they were chosen as obedient greedy empty vessels, not principled public servants.
Then there are “events, dear boy, events” (Trump, Putin, Israel, climate, and ?).
Everything is humanly so unpredictable. In MY lifetime it feels on a similar scale for the “what happens now?” factor, to the Cuban missile crisis, the poll tax riots, the Iraq invasion. Starmer is almost an irrelevance in terms of his personal quality as an almost intangibly insignificant prime minister of such staggering incompetence and foolishness – but the events around his short term of office are uniquely earth-shaking. Anyone who ISN’T worried isn’t paying attention.
I’ve been watching/reading my archived copies of The Lobby, the Lobby-USA, Labour Leaks, the (buried) Forde Report, and The Labour Files from around 2017, as well as churning through Fraud (Paul Holden) and Complicit (Peter Oborne). We didn’t need the Epstein files to know what’s been going on for a long time. But now even the BBC can’t get away with ignoring it, although they will focus desperately on Mandelson, to avoid mentioning Israel.
We have a window of opportunity to speak truth to power, loudly, to tell them they’ve been rumbled. I don’t know how long it will be open.
I will speak when I can!
From a party point of view after the local elections is the optimum time but (political) events could bring it forward, if things quieten down he could try and hang on, lack of a viable replacement could mean many in the party accept that, if reluctantly, but its hard to see how he could ever recover, he’d be a wounded lamb waiting for the slaughter.
according to the Times (today) Anas Sarwar, the Scottish Labour leader, is expected to call for the prime minister’s resignation this afternoon. Will there be a vote on this? – and there are many Labour MPs who are not happy.
There is a Parliamentary Labour Party meeting this evening….
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Yes
For me, what Starmer’s Faux-Labour/Likud-Labour Party is going through now is an anti-matter replay, in keeping with Marx’s “First as tragedy, then as farce” of the tragic last gasp of the Liberal Party.
The Liberals, remember, won a stunning majority in 1906, after years of Tory dominance, only to get in by a whisker in the two GE’s on 1910 (January = Liberals 274 on 43.5%, Tories 272 on 46.8%!!. December Liberals 272 on 44.4%, Tories 271 on 46.6%), and subsequently never formed a majority administration.
I call it an anti-matter replay, because there could hardly be a greater difference between the two scenarios – Campbell-Bannerman, a politician of real worth and significance, leading a Party of great worth and significance, and of profound service to the country, succeeded first by Asquith and then by Lloyd George, before he, and the Liberal Party, were subsumed into a Coalition.
The only element of the above1 that rings true is the bit about “of profound service to the country” when applied to the tragic farce that goes by the name of the Labour Party now.
Everything else – “sounding brass” Starmer v Campbell-Bannerman, Wes Streeting v Asquith, or Angela Rayner v Lloyd George, and a supine, if not malevolent, genocide-tolerant Likud-Labour Party versus the Labour Party up to Blair’s takeover, and even for some years beyond, with diminishing validity, culminating in Attlee’s “I am my sister’s and brother’s keeper” Party – all of this highlights the profound change in Labour’s place in the political spectrum – an anti-matter replay of the fate of the Liberal Party,
For I do not doubt but that Starmer’s Labour will fare badly in any GE unless it is reformed and remodelled root and branch, though I personally think it beyond redemption unless Starmer’s faction is shoe1n thr door. If not, I predict that, like the Liberals, it will never form another administration on its own, with the possibility of being in a Coalition, as with the Lib-Dems.
Thanks Andrew
Richard, I have Sky News on right now. They are reporting that the Scottish Labour Leader is asking for Starmer to resign!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI1TlaYAw1M
The branch office is protesting!
This morning, I thought Starmer would go in May after the local elections. Since then, I’ve heard several respected commentators saying it would be sooner than that. I bow to their inside knowledge and also to your own considered opinion. I now think he may not last more than a few days unless he opts for a national government.
There’s a bit of this saga that’s not getting attention. One of the issues Starmer must inevitably address in deciding whether, and when, to resign is his future working life afterwards. So he will be considering whether his reputation will be best protected by resigning now, or waiting. If he resigns now, or very soon, he will be able to project an air of selflessness – “I am resigning for the good of the party/country” and so on. He can also stress his achievements in a way that still looks fairly credible, at least to some. If he stays on, that all becomes more difficult. The impression that he is clinging to power will do him no favours. I think this tips the balance significantly towards an early resignation.
Streetings leadership bid has certainly got well underway today, trying to distance himself from Mandelson & No.10 and trying to make out he’s a victim of Starmers team and never liked him anyway. I don’t know if people will fall for it, it might even have the strange effect of increasing support for Starmer if Labour MP’s think he’s out of order.
“If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there.”
I think it was George Harrison who wrote the song Any Road with these words.
So here we go again.
The press is already counting down Keir Starmer’s time in office. Who’s out, who will replace him, who’s plotting what. We’ve been round this loop before: Johnson, Truss, Sunak, now Starmer.
Different drivers. Same bus. Same route.
Generally speaking, we obsess over leadership changes but perhaps not enough on the question of the destination. The economic map hasn’t changed in decades: market-first instincts, financialised “growth,” and the fantasy that prosperity will somehow appear if we manage the numbers better.
It won’t.
We discuss about how to finance growth, but is the real question “what is it we are growing? Is the real problem we don’t have enough stuff to grow?
Not enough homes.
Not enough energy.
Not enough industry.
Not enough skills.
So, politics becomes ritual sacrifice, change the leader, keep the same model, act surprised when nothing improves.
Swapping drivers won’t fix things.
Until we change direction, we’ll stay stuck, no matter who’s at the wheel or the colour of the coat the driver wears.
Thanks