The government's own accounts, just released, show that its total liabilities owing fell between 2022 and 2023 by £1.5 trillion. They're now much smaller than the figure the government claims the national debt to be. The whole claim that we're supposedly burdened by debt is now complete nonsense. When will they admit it?
The audio version is here:
This is the transcript:
The UK national debt has fallen by £1.5 trillion this week, and that's astonishing.
Let me explain what has happened. The UK government has issued what are called the Whole of Government Accounts. The Whole of Government Accounts represent everything that the government supposedly does, including central government, every single government department, all the local authorities in the UK - except in this case some of them didn't submit the data, but supposedly all the local authorities in the UK - all the hospital trusts, all the school and education trusts, and all the other related activities that the government undertakes through quangos and anything else you care to think of, including the activities of the Welsh and Scottish governments and the Assembly in Northern Ireland. All of that is added together to make up this set of accounts.
So, it is a complicated process, but it is meant to provide a comprehensive view of just what's going on. And what is going on is something quite extraordinary. At the end of 2022 according to the government, the UK's total national debt, as shown on these accounts, came to a total of almost £3.9 trillion. Or, £3,874 billion, if you like.
The figures that I'm now putting on the screen come from those accounts and represent the total liabilities owing as shown on them.
Now that figure of £3,874 billion is in the right-hand column because that's for 2022, and the figure in the left-hand column is the figure for 2023, and, as you'll see, that figure is a lot smaller. It's £2,389 billion that the government owed in total at the end of that year. And that is an astonishing fall.
The total fall is, in fact, near enough, if we compare the two figures, £1.5 trillion or just under £1,500 billion. And in case you don't count in billions too often, let me put that number in context. That's roughly half the total income of the UK for a year. And that is an enormous amount of money that the government no longer owes, according to its own accounts.
Now why did this happen? How did we suddenly become so much better off as a country because the government doesn't owe money? Well the answer is actually pretty simple. It is explained by the figures I'm now putting on the screen, and this is the line from those accounts which shows the total amount that he is owing in respect of pensions due to people who have been employed by the government but who have yet to enjoy the pension in question. And as you will see, in the year to March 2022, which is the right hand of those figures, £2,639 billion was potentially owing in the future to those pensioners. That's £2.6 trillion.
But by the end of March 2023, that figure had fallen to £1,415 billion, or £1.4 billion.
So why has the number gone down so much? Well actually, very simply, and very straightforwardly, that's because the interest rate went up between the end of March 2022 and March 2023. So, what has that got to do with pension liabilities in the future? The interest rate is presumed to indicate the rate of return that will be made on investments. And if the rate of return on an investment rises, and that is the implication of the increase in the interest rate paid by the government, then the cost of servicing the future debt obligations due to pensioners will fall because more investment return will be made in the meantime. So, in other words, just because the interest rates went up, the government owes a lot less in the future.
Now, you heard that interest rates went up because the government was in a mess, its finances were terrible, inflation was high, and everything was going to end up in disaster. But here's a totally different story. Because the interest rate went up - not something I'm entirely happy with, by the way, but because it did - there is a very major upside in the accounts. And that upside is that, in practice, our total debts, owing, as I explained, have fallen from £3.9 trillion, or £3,900 billion, near enough, to £2,400 billion, which is a figure significantly less than our total national income now.
Significantly less, in fact, than the government claims the national debt to be when it talks about that national debt, when it says it can't do things because the national debt is too great.
And what is more, even more perversely, in those same accounts, and because of this change, in fact, the government is shown as having net interest income in the year to March 2023 and not a net interest cost.
In the short term, of course, it did pay out interest, but in the longer term, this change in the pension liability does actually result in the release of interest expenditure previously put in the accounts by the government, meaning that during the course of the year it was shown to actually make a surplus with regard to interest costs.
So again, this whole government narrative that the government can't afford things because it's got to pay interest suddenly looks to have been shattered by their own accounts.
And the whole of the debt story, that we have a debt cost that is unaffordable, is suddenly shattered by their own accounts because it's not true.
What we're seeing is that one and a half trillion pounds of that debt can be written off in a single year simply by changing the interest rate.
So, do we need to worry about this debt? I mean, let's just put this remaining net government debt of £2,389 billion in context. If you presume that the pension liability that is owing might take up to 50 years to pay, because some of it is due in respect of young people now working for the government, whether as nurses, teachers, civil servants, or whatever, and might therefore not be paid out for 50 years.
If we spread that liability of £2,389 billion over 50 years, it doesn't come to a lot each year. It's totally affordable. It's under £50 billion a year. So, what are we worried about? What is the great concern? Is this so burdensome on future generations that we have to crush the economy to manage it? Or is it just something that is there to be dealt with when the time comes? I'd suggest it's there to be dealt with when the time comes.
And in fact, there's another reason for that. Let me show you some more data within these government accounts. This table shows the amount of debt owing by the government, the amount of money issued into the economy by the Bank of England, and the long term debt owned by the government.
Now, let me just talk through the numbers. Government borrowing due within one year, supposedly, was, in March 2023, £371 billion. The figure due after one year, which effectively represents the amount of borrowing that the government has got outstanding on what are called gilts or government bonds, was £1,382 billion. So together, a total of £1,754 billion. And on top of that, there was £948 billion of money in circulation issued by the Bank of England that we were using to keep the economy going, but which is shown as a liability on the government's accounts.
But this actually simply represents money created by the Bank of England.
Is any of that debt going to be repaid?
The government cannot withdraw the money in circulation issued by the Bank of England to any significant degree. It did go down during the course of that year by about £80 billion. It is planned to go down by about £100 billion in the present year, but there are plenty of reasons to be concerned if the government keeps going with this programme because there comes a point when the government clearly cannot take all the money that it is issued into circulation out of circulation, or we will have no money left to finance the economy, or to keep our banking system going, and so on.
So, the amount by which that £948 billion can be reduced is relatively limited.
And even if it is reduced, all that happens is, the amount of bonds in issue goes up by an equivalent amount. They literally are a swap, one for the other.
Has, the quantity of government bonds in issue ever fallen significantly?
No, never. Not since 1694, when the national debt in the UK was first created, in the total sum of £1 million.
Why doesn't it go down? Because, as I've explained in many videos, the national debt, these bonds in issue, are simply people's savings lodged with the government. And nobody wants to stop saving with the government.
So there would be furor and chaos and a nightmare in the financial markets the government tried to reduce the amount of national debt that was available for people to literally use as a mechanism for saving. In other words, none of that liability is going to be repaid.
So, what is the liability that's not going to be repaid? Well, actually in accounting terms, we call that capital. And capital is not something that we need to worry about, because in fact, It is actually the funding that the government can enjoy and rely upon and keep going with for a very long time. But that would actually reduce the net liabilities owned by the government to the point where we have net assets.
In other words the government isn't in debt at all if we properly treat the bonds in issue and the money created by the Bank of England as capital.
We would then have a situation where there is no debt left to worry about, nothing to talk about, no crisis, just an opportunity for the government to talk about how it is going to invest to provide all of us with a long-term future.
So not only do these accounts show that national debt has fallen by £1.5 trillion in a year, and the government's paranoia about interest costs is unjustified because they in fact made money out of financing the government during the year to 31st March 2023, but if we correctly treat the so called national debt, made up of gilts in issue, plus Bank of England created money, as the capital that the government has to fund its activities, then we are suddenly in the position that the government has a very healthy balance sheet.
We don't have a government financing crisis.
We don't have to constrain the role of government to keep future generations happy, because future generations should be very happy with this situation, because the government is on a sound footing.
And we should be asking, what should the government be investing in on our behalf? Because that's the question that these accounts beg, but which the government isn't answering.
And that's what really worries me about these accounts. They're not asking the right questions, so they're not getting the right answers, and we should be holding them to account for that failure.
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By comparison the Annual Accounts of the Ecology Building Society which because of the way it is structured cannot ‘create’ money highlights the annual increase in its deposits as a good thing.
Whats good for The Ecology Building Society is Good for The Country
Thank you.
That is clear and concise, that even a non accountant can understand. No doubt that’s why you are Professor of Accounting Practice at the University of Sheffield Management School, as you can explain complex issues very simply.
Thanks
Hi Richard
Excellent explanation for year end 2023 , what is your prediction for 2024 as we appear to be on trend interest wise .
Will we get another £1.3 T reduction in Debt in your opinion ?
No
Rates will only decline only slightly
As always I may have missed something being an amateur at best however:
As someone with my name on a very small part of the civil service pension figure but knowing I will not able to get any of it paid back to me for at least 15 years I don’t understand why the whole amount is taken to be liable in one set of accounts.
I believe the same is the true for gilts and the total value is accounted for in the year of issue instead of over the 15/20 year life of the gilt.
Following this logic, if a private company were to insist that all bank loans are recognised in the year they received then the vast majority would be bust.
Is future income accounted for?
Is there a reasonable accountancy explanation for doing this?
I think you are misunderstanding accounting
The liability to you is recognised as falling due in the future
And all bank loans are on every company balance sheet – or at least they should be
Accounting seeks to recognise all liabilities – albeit discounted to their current value. Prudence requires this. Fur the same reason future income is not recognised – but the result is we end up with the anomaly that we have – where this liability is incredibly notional because clearly there is an asset to match it.
I have complained to the BBC, via their complaints procedure, that they have not covered this important story.
I sent it to national papers – who asked for second opinions
I bet they wouldn’t for BP’s accounts
So there was no need to withdraw the Winter fuel payments
No
A most insightful reckoning. Public Accounts can provide so much understanding. Thank you.
The other side of the equation is worth examining. It could benefit from similar reframe of the political narrative. When government spents, nationally or locally, value is created on many levels (and taxes generated), and often a tangible asset created or an intangible benefit delivery such as a healthier, and therefore more productive population.
Agreed
I think this might be a project for next year
I have myself come across situations in some jurisdictions where certain types of long term (potentially perpetual) funding are regarded as capital whilst the payments to the investors made on them are treated as interest. In other words the accounting (and tax) treatment reflects the reality that you describe.
Whilst I recognise that these accounts have only recently been published, the mandarins in the Treasury must have known the effect of increasing interest rates. Rachel Reeves must surely have been given a preview well in advance. I am now left wondering where the black hole is?
Or have I misunderstood something?
If the accounts are healthy, why can the government not do something about social care and the clear under-funding of the NHS?
Why was it necessary to cut the winter fuel allowance to pensioners?
Why is more not being done to address the effects of climate change both at home and abroad?
I won’t go on about what I see as being the mean-spirited nature of this government; but you get my drift.
There is and never was a black hole
And the government can never have a say flow crisis
Richard, could it be that the government and establishment (could be the same thing) like to spin these lies so they don’t have to create new money/fund public services etc, as they view this as inflationary and/or would reduce inequality, which they do not want to do as this would reduce their wealth/power?
I know that it would not be inflationary based off your many great blogs on this issue and likely the government know this. So it leaves me to think it is probably the latter that I describe. So they spin these lies to keep the poor, poor, and keep the wealthy, wealthy.
They just don’t understand, is a better explanation, I think.
What happens if interest rates fall in the near future – unlikely as that may be?
This measure of debt would rise
But the BoE is not giving us grounds fur optimism on interest rates.
Does anybody, organisation, think tank, etc. (apart from yourself) review, comment or even look at these? If not, why not?
The National Audit Office has reviewed them and nit qualified them fur this reason
Well said for showing how government assets and liabilities change with interest rates.
But here’s a problem: households and businesses have some three times the level of government debt. Households in particular have pension assets not liabilities and therefore higher rates cost them more than they gain in savings. Even worse, anyone with a mortgage saving for a pension is really a slave to the financial services industry.
Private sector response to interest rate changes is therefore the opposite to govenment.
What you have shown is that government has screwed mortgage holders and business borrowing for its own benefit.
And it’s long past time for government accounting to comply with accounting standards.
I think I’ll try that one on the omnibus…
and I might just send it to my MP to see if SHE can find the black hole.
I wonder if she knows this FURTHER reason why Reeves’s ” – black hole austerity difficult decisions can’t afford it they said so in PPE at Oxford what would Andrew Bayley say? -” economic subterfuge must be challenged.
A fascinating analysis, Richard, revealing that inaccuracy is rife in the occasional interim statements purporting to represent the “National Debt” as they’re not based on Whole of Government Accounts. Only the latter consolidate all relevant data and should represent an accurate picture if only we could rely on the record-keeping of the various departments. Past experience and the severe cutbacks in these departments don’t fill me with confidence, however. Are the WoGAs subject to audit and if so, by whom?
Re the last, the NAO, and they disclaimed opinion because most local authority accounts were not available.