Those who responded to the poll I put up on swearing an oath of allegiance to the king yesterday seemed very largely of one mind:
It would seem that Celtic supporters were of broadly the same mind yesterday. You will have to click the video in the Tweet to see (and hear) this:
https://twitter.com/HereCelts/status/1652687767942443009?s=20
OK, this is Celtic in Glasgow, with all its catholic, Irish and republican sympathies. But it was still telling, although I recognise Rangers might have disagreed (if only as a matter of principle, but also maybe because they really might not agree).
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Well, it is football after all but wouldn’t it be great if the same sentiment was aimed at ‘austerity’ and the Tory party?
Mind you – it’s fascinating isn’t it – here they are (was this at Celtic’s ground?) en masse sticking a finger up to the establishment.
I have to say I am in total agreement with the sentiment.
PSR, it was at the National Stadium at Hampden Park and, while the Celtic supporters were singing it to rile the Rangers fans (who in the main are pro-Union), they (the Celtic fans) actually reflect the sentiments of the majority of Scots. Recent polls up here have shown the majority of Scots no longer favour the monarchy – some of that’s down to their interference in legislation in order to protect their private interests, but a lot of it is down to the Queen’s death and Charles being less trusted and respected by the Scottish public. Personally I find the politicisation of Scottish club football bizarre and unwelcome. On Saturday I reckon there’ll plenty of swearing in our household, mainly directed at the domination of the media by the coronation, and none of it will be about allegiance to any king (which we categorise as foreign news).
Brought a smile to my face too. A voluntary pledge of allegiance to a hereditary monarch? How daft is that? While we’re at it, here’s my response to Der Sturmer’s headline telling us all to do just that:
“*uck off DM, *uck off DM, *uck off DM, why just don’t you? ”
We shall be down on the coast, away from the nonsense in London. Arthritic knee permitting, I shall be on a walk in the wonderful West Sussex countryside. And in the evening, having a meal to celebrate my 60th birthday which, bizarrely, is also on May 6th. Hopefully there’ll be an absence of tacky union flags and bunting (it’s an upmarket pub/restaurant).
Enjoy the day!
Those who do and those who don’t.
Another way of stoking division.
Celtic leading the way as usual.
Who can forget 1967 – European Cup winners (against Inter Milan) with a team born within 25 miles of the stadium.
As the FT remarked some years ago (in an article naming Stein, Paisley and Shankly as the greatest managers of all time) – an accomplishment that is incomprehensible these days.
If the supporters sentiments are typical of the rest of the nation, then the Windsors days as monarchs of Scotland are numbered & not before time.
Mike, if these supporters’ sentiments are typical of most of Scotland, I suspect Scotland’s days in the union with England are numbered too; despite the SNP’s current problems. Given how feeble and right wing labour now are, I think their hope that they’ll get a load more seats in Scotland in the next GE are forlorn.
And if they need those seats to form a government in Westminster, labour really are in trouble.
Not sure the toxicity of the old firm rivalry is a reflection of what most people actually think in Scotland. In the 1979 referendum most Catholics voted against independence on the basis that they would be even worse off ( in a Protestant dominated West of Scotland ) and it was a valid concern given the discrimination suffered by Catholics in Glasgow and the West of Scotland then. It is nowhere near as bad now but not non existent as yet. So if you ignore the old firm supporters ( who seem to relish the bigotry ) you will find that religion is not really a major factor in the independence argument. I respect both as I understand why some want independence and some don’t. You have a core of , say , 20% on each side who are immovable. The middle 60% need to be persuaded , one way or another , on the economic case. Like it or not the silent majority vote with their wallets.
I was cheered by the Celtic anti monarchy chant. At least we live in a place where a crowd can chant that and not be punished.
Celtic fans are on point on many political issues.
I’m a season ticket holder and I regularly hear a chorus of,
” If you hate the f——g tories clap your hands.”
Celtic have been fined several times by UEFA for the fans displaying what are deemed unacceptable political banners, mainly in support of Palestinians.
Recently, we had a very simple banner declaring that
“Douglas Ross is a —t”
Douglas Ross is a Tory MP, Tory leader in Scotland, an MSP and a football linesman. He was on duty at Celtic Park when the banner was shown.
The same song is modified to fit most Royal occasions, esp weddings.