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I suggest that there is only one:
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Off topic but I am a bit confused. In an earlier post you said that you had been ‘reliably informed’ that ‘herd immunity’ was a concept only used in veterinary medicine but on Aljazeera I’m reading that the WHO chief saying that “herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached”.
Who was it that ‘reliably informed’ you? It seems the chief of the WHO disagrees with your source. I wonder if your source was also the one who told you to expect 600,000 more UK deaths from Covid-19?
I was advised by persons working in medicine
They do nit use the term because of its connotations for the reasons I noted
It is clear some disagree
So?
This might help,
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/12/who-chief-says-herd-immunity-approach-to-pandemic-unethical
@ Vinnie Richardson
Thanks for the weblink. On an anectdotal basis I know a family where both parents and their three children had Covid-19 and appeared to recovery from it successfully but a few weeks later their sixteen year old son woke up to find the right side of his body paralysed as though he’d had a stroke. He couldn’t walk or use his right hand and had to use a wheelchair. Eventually after consulation with many medical specialists a neuroanesthesiologist consultant prescribed the problem as an inflamed nerve running from the brain and prescribed a powerful anti-inflammatory drug which cured the problem. This consultant believed it to be a side effect from Covid-19. There would appear to be a variety of “Covid-Long” problems now coming to light which aren’t confined to the elderly and this I think is one reason why the head of the WHO states to deliberately plan for Covid-19 infection is unethical.
Mz Green,
The Guardian article on the WHO statement used this quotation from what Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus actually said: “Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it,” Tedros said. “Never in the history of public health has herd immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic.”
I do not find that confusing.
Thank you
Appreciated
I was not confused as to whether Herd immunity was a good or bad thing, but Richard said he had been ‘reliably informed’ that herd immunity was a concept ONLY used in veterinary medicine. Clearly it isn’t. Whether it’s a good concept or a bad concept is beside the point. It is a concept used when discussing humans. There are references to the term being used in respect of humans dating back nearly 100 years. I was merely suggesting Richard’s source was not reliable at all – that source after all having told him that the UK could expect a total of 600,000 more Covid-19 deaths during this pandemic on top of the 50,000 or so already suffered. Perhaps Richard should read “Herd Immunity: History, Theory, Practice” by Paul E. M. Fine published in Epidemiologic Reviews, Volume 15, Issue 2, in 1993 which discusses the concept as applied to human populations and cites research dating back decades. It’s a reliable source.
If Richard comes come to a conclusion based on an obviously unreliable source (presumably because that source is telling him what he wants to hear) and then never seek to expand his knowledge, or test what he has been told, it detracts from what he has to say.
It was also entirely irrelevant to the argument I made – and aside
But you picked up to troll with it
Richard,
Worth pointing out that last time I looked the UK is pretty much self sufficient in building materials, apart from Timber so clearly any building work paid for by public funds would almost all be spent here
🙂