{"id":68982,"date":"2023-03-31T08:02:28","date_gmt":"2023-03-31T07:02:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/?p=68982"},"modified":"2023-03-31T08:02:28","modified_gmt":"2023-03-31T07:02:28","slug":"why-are-the-tories-obsessed-with-government-debt-when-their-record-on-it-is-by-the-standards-they-set-so-abysmal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2023\/03\/31\/why-are-the-tories-obsessed-with-government-debt-when-their-record-on-it-is-by-the-standards-they-set-so-abysmal\/","title":{"rendered":"Why are the Tories obsessed with government debt when their record on it is, by the standards they set, so abysmal?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I noted this exchange this from <a href=\"https:\/\/committees.parliament.uk\/oralevidence\/12944\/html\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the minutes of the Liaison Committee<\/a> hearing in parliament this week when Rish Sunak appeared before the chairs of a range of Parliamentary Select Committees:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Angus Brendan MacNeil<\/strong>:\u00a0I want to touch on wider trade issues, but I have a small data point to see what you understand about budget deficits, which you mentioned earlier. In the 78 years since 1945, how many years has the UK been in deficit, would you approximate?<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Prime Minister:<\/strong>\u00a0It is very rare for countries to run overall budget surpluses.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Angus Brendan MacNeil was quoting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2021\/06\/24\/the-tories-have-always-borrowed-more-than-labour-and-always-repaid-less-they-are-the-party-of-big-deficit-spending\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this report by me<\/a>, where I noted this:<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Screenshot-2021-06-23-at-10.46.44.png\" width=\"481\" height=\"176\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Prime Minister was right: budget surpluses are, indeed, very rare. His party have managed just four in more than 75 years, and in 47 years in office. They repaid just \u00a37 billion in original prices or \u00a322.4 billion in 2021 prices over that entire time period.<\/p>\n<p>They borrowed \u00a31,491.4 billion in original prices (a number that has now gone up somewhat as this data is out of date). That means that they have repaid less than 0.5% of what they have ever borrowed.<\/p>\n<p>So, three points.<\/p>\n<p>First, why do the Tories obsess about government debt when they have created by far the largest part of it?<\/p>\n<p>Second, why do they always talk about the need to repay government debt when they are so bad at doing so?<\/p>\n<p>Third, why do they not accept that we need government deficits and that without them we would be in very deep trouble?<\/p>\n<p>The evidence is there to see, but they are in deep denial about it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I noted this exchange this from the minutes of the Liaison Committee hearing in parliament this week when Rish Sunak appeared before the chairs of<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2023\/03\/31\/why-are-the-tories-obsessed-with-government-debt-when-their-record-on-it-is-by-the-standards-they-set-so-abysmal\/\"><em> Read the full article&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[96,35,106],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-68982","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conservatives","category-economics","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68982","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=68982"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68982\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68983,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68982\/revisions\/68983"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=68982"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=68982"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=68982"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}