{"id":44225,"date":"2019-02-05T06:58:56","date_gmt":"2019-02-05T06:58:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/?p=44225"},"modified":"2019-02-05T06:58:56","modified_gmt":"2019-02-05T06:58:56","slug":"labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/","title":{"rendered":"Labour&#8217;s fiscal rule is Osbornomics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The debate on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/04\/fisking-the-portes-wren-lewis-fiscal-credibility-rule\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">between Simon Wren-Lewis, Jonathan Portes and me on Labour's fiscal rule<\/a> was resumed last night, and continued long after I'd dropped out to go to bed. I'll comment separately\u00a0on my engagement later. What I instead want to do is give full credit to someone called <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DarrellChaloner\/status\/1092573122237288448\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Darrell\u00a0Kavanagh<\/a>, who said this to Jonathan Portes:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/screen-shot-2019-02-05-at-06-34-41\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-44227\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-44227\" src=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.41-550x138.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.41-550x138.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.41-768x192.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.41-600x150.png 600w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.41.png 1056w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jdportes\/status\/1092573735490674689\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">secured this response<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/screen-shot-2019-02-05-at-06-34-54\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-44226\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-44226\" src=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.54-550x118.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"118\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.54-550x118.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.54-768x165.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.54-600x129.png 600w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.34.54.png 1054w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>At last we got to the nub of the issue here. First, Portes and Wren-Lewis don't do politics. It shows, I have to say.<\/p>\n<p>Second, they don't think economics and policy\u00a0are politics. I hate to say it,\u00a0but nor do any neoliberals. Instead, economics and\u00a0policy are for them 'the revealed truth', as they clearly are for Portes and Wren-Lewis.<\/p>\n<p>Third, and rather tellingly, the result is a Labour Fiscal Rule that is the same as the LibDems approach and is, apparently, almost indistinguishable from anything Osborne did.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, my suggestion that this is a continuation of the logic of austerity is right. As Darrell Kavanagh put it:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/screen-shot-2019-02-05-at-06-43-53\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-44228\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-44228\" src=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.43.53-550x118.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"118\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.43.53-550x118.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.43.53-768x165.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.43.53-600x129.png 600w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.43.53.png 1052w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Precisely. To which Portes replied:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/screen-shot-2019-02-05-at-06-44-56\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-44229\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-44229\" src=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.44.56-550x113.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"113\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.44.56-550x113.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.44.56-768x158.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.44.56-600x123.png 600w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-05-at-06.44.56.png 1050w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So, the drive for a balanced budget had nothing to do with the policy then, Jonathan?<\/p>\n<p>I note you saying 'I can't speak to the politics' in the tweet I quote, above. Too true you won't, I am sure. Because four things are very clear.<\/p>\n<p>First, this is Osbornomics.<\/p>\n<p>Second, its use in the hands of the Bank of England - who it is intended to empower, again - will be to recreate\u00a0Osbornomics.<\/p>\n<p>And third, your rule strips away the power of the Treasury to stop that.<\/p>\n<p>So, fourth, this rule is intended to re-establish the old economic order of neoliberalism, again.<\/p>\n<p>And for the record, as Portes and Wren-Lewis think it should be used, that is what it would do.<\/p>\n<p>I call that politics.<\/p>\n<p>And I call that the politics that perpetuates all the errors of the pre-crash era (because this is also the Brown \/ Balls rule in all but name) as well as all the worst of the post-crash era.<\/p>\n<p>And Jonathan\u00a0Portes and Simon Wren-Lewis 'sigh' (to quote Portes) and think I 'seem to want to misunderstand' (to quote\u00a0Wren-Lewis) at my comments, in an attempt to belittle them.<\/p>\n<p>But I get what these two are saying. In fact, I got them entirely right. This is Osbornomics, as Portes has confirmed. And that's a million miles from where Labour should be. And I say that because I do speak to the politics. And I understand them. Which is why we differ, completely.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The debate on Twitter between Simon Wren-Lewis, Jonathan Portes and me on Labour&#8217;s fiscal rule was resumed last night, and continued long after I&#8217;d dropped<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2019\/02\/05\/labours-fiscal-rule-is-osbornomics\/\"><em> Read the full article&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,118,174],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44225","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","category-labour","category-modern-monetary-theory"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44225","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44225"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44225\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44225"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44225"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44225"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}