{"id":43302,"date":"2018-10-11T09:15:10","date_gmt":"2018-10-11T08:15:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/?p=43302"},"modified":"2018-10-11T09:15:11","modified_gmt":"2018-10-11T08:15:11","slug":"we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2018\/10\/11\/we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do\/","title":{"rendered":"We don&#8217;t need tax to fund the NHS, but we may increase taxes because we do"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxjustice.uk\/taxing-wealth.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tax Justice UK has issued a new report<\/a> this morning:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2018\/10\/11\/we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do\/screen-shot-2018-10-11-at-08-54-29\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-43303\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-43303\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29-550x586.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"586\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29-550x586.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29-282x300.png 282w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29-768x818.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29-375x400.png 375w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.54.29.png 1766w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As they say of it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>The World We Want\u00a0<\/em>is a new report that sets out how the government could find the \u00a320 billion a year extra it has promised for the NHS by raising taxes on wealth.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The suggestions are summarised in this pie chart:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2018\/10\/11\/we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do\/screen-shot-2018-10-11-at-08-56-28\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-43304\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-43304\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.56.28-550x566.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.56.28-550x566.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.56.28-291x300.png 291w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.56.28-768x791.png 768w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.56.28-389x400.png 389w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The premise of the report is that:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2018\/10\/11\/we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do\/screen-shot-2018-10-11-at-08-58-29\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-43305\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-43305\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.58.29-550x327.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.58.29-550x327.png 550w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.58.29-504x300.png 504w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.58.29-600x357.png 600w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/Screen-Shot-2018-10-11-at-08.58.29.png 726w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And whilst I am on the one hand delighted that Tax Justice UK is challenging the right wing on these issues\u00a0 I admit that I am also quite conflicted by what it is saying.<\/p>\n<p>The simple reality is that the premise of the report is wrong. The way to fund \u00a320bn of extra healthcare spending is for the government to create the necessary funding for that purpose. And it can do this at any moment. The fact is that tax does not precede spend. It is always, and inevitably, true that spend precedes tax.\u00a0 In that case the hypothesis that extra tax must be raised before the NHS can be funded is incorrect. What actually happens is that if the government spends an extra \u00a320 billion into the economy, and increases GDP directly as a result (because government spending is part of GDP, because it creates wealth) then\u00a0 the government can, if it so wishes, claim back some, all, or even more of that spend in tax\u00a0 if it so wishes,\u00a0 with the possibility that it might claim back more than is even spent being made possible by multiplier effects, which are quite high in the case of NHS expenditure.<\/p>\n<p>What it is important to stress though is that the reason to make that claim back by way of tax would not be to fund the NHS.\u00a0 That would make no sense at all, because the NHS would have already been funded: the expenditure does that. So the reclamation of that spend by taxation has to be for some other purpose. It may be to control inflation. It may be to reduce inequality i.e. taxing those with more than others simply for social purpose. Or it could be as part of the policy to control carbon use. And it may be for the delivery of some other government policy. But the funding of the NHS will not actually come into the equation. That problem is solved the moment the government decides to create the money to make the payment to provide the additional resources the\u00a0NHS requires,\u00a0 as it may at any time because all money creation is ultimately under its control.<\/p>\n<p>And I also stress that the government could choose not to tax and still not run a deficit: ignoring the fact that QE\u00a0 could fund all current deficits with ease is just technically wrong\u00a0 now that we know that it is possible.<\/p>\n<p>Putting all this together, what Tax Justice UK is arguing, in my opinion, is that if\u00a0 \u00a320 billion of additional expenditure on the NHS is required, and if the government insists that this should not change its overall deficit, then socially appropriate choices have to be made on the taxes that will be used to recover the expenditure made and the program that they have laid out appears to be one that is entirely socially appropriate.\u00a0 I can support it for that reason,\u00a0 but I\u00a0 have also to say that the time is coming when the tax justice movement has to recognise the realities of the economics of spend and tax.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tax Justice UK has issued a new report this morning: As they say of it: The World We Want\u00a0is a new report that sets out<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2018\/10\/11\/we-dont-need-tax-to-fund-the-nhs-but-we-may-increase-taxes-because-we-do\/\"><em> Read the full article&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,174,128,97],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43302","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economics","category-modern-monetary-theory","category-nhs","category-tax-justice"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43302","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43302"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43302\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43302"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43302"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43302"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}