{"id":19705,"date":"2013-03-18T11:16:32","date_gmt":"2013-03-18T11:16:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/?p=19705"},"modified":"2013-03-18T11:16:32","modified_gmt":"2013-03-18T11:16:32","slug":"is-the-sark-paye-lark-guernseys-fault","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2013\/03\/18\/is-the-sark-paye-lark-guernseys-fault\/","title":{"rendered":"Is the Sark PAYE lark Guernsey&#8217;s fault?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the weekend the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/news\/uk-21812596\" target=\"_blank\">Treasury shut down <\/a>an\u00a0abusive\u00a0tax\u00a0scheme that was costing \u00a3100 million a year in lost UK national insurance. The scheme depended on employers being\u00a0located\u00a0in Sark and then claiming employer's national insurance was not due as a result on agency payments to teaches, nurses and others. Tens of\u00a0thousands\u00a0of people have been involved in schemes supposedly run from leafy cottages on Sark.<\/p>\n<p>I said on\u00a0<a title=\"Guernsey tax scheme costing the UK \u00a3100 million a year shut down\" href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2013\/03\/16\/guernsey-tax-scheme-costing-the-uk-100-million-a-year-shut-down\/\" target=\"_blank\">Saturday\u00a0this was a Guernsey tax scheme<\/a>. Some in Guernsey erupted in fury. Comments from someone who has said rather a lot, who passes by the name of Patrick, were typical:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Why do you suggest that Guernsey would be responsible for regulating such a Sark scheme? Was it part of a regulated Sark fiduciary\u2019s business? I would advise you to research thoroughly and think hard before you answer that one.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Guernsey simply cannot stop somebody forming companies in the UK and elsewhere, and then contracting directly with Sark residents who are not carrying out any regulated financial services business to provide certain services from there. Guernsey can only intervene if the activity which is being carried out from Sark is one which should be regulated. Running a payroll company is very likely to fall outside of that scope altogether, as its simply a trading business of a non-financial services nature.<\/p>\n<p>I really don\u2019t think that your arrows are being aimed appropriately at Guernsey re. this payroll scheme.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sark is NOT in Guernsey. It is part of the Bailiwick but it is self-governing. Mail is routed to Sark via the Guernsey Post Office (in the same way that overseas mail to Guernsey arrives via the UK).<\/p>\n<p>I am reliably informed that company number 84559 in Jersey is ISS. It seems to be a Jersey-registered company, with a so-called administration headquarters (yeah right) in Sark, but with everything carried out from the UK.<\/p>\n<p>Absolutely NOTHING to do with Guernsey\u2026..<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Well, all that seems heated, so let's now deal with some facts.<\/p>\n<p>First, Sark is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gov.gg\/article\/1891\/Guernsey-and-the-Bailiwick\" target=\"_blank\">in the Bailiwick of Guernsey<\/a>. Sark does have some separate laws, but saying Sark and Guernsey are not connected is like saying England and Scotland are not\u00a0connected\u00a0as they have\u00a0separate\u00a0legal systems and yet are members of the UK. So, the claims made are\u00a0disingenuous.<\/p>\n<p>Second, Guernsey does regulate financial services in Sark. Take this for example,\u00a0which\u00a0I found on the web:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-19708\" alt=\"Screen shot 2013-03-18 at 11.04.53\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53.png\" width=\"559\" height=\"609\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53.png 559w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53-275x300.png 275w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53-206x225.png 206w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.04.53-121x132.png 121w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 559px) 100vw, 559px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The evidence is clear: non regulated financial services businesses in Sark pay fees to Guernsey for\u00a0regulation\u00a0or Sark would not be consulted. So I looked at those\u00a0regulations. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gfsc.gg\/Registered\/Registered-Entities\/Pages\/Non%20Regulated%20FSBs.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">They're here<\/a>. One of the\u00a0regulated\u00a0activities is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Issuing, redeeming, managing or administering means of payment, means of payment includes, without limitation, credit, charge and debit cards, cheques, travellers' cheques, money orders and bankers' drafts and electronic money.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ccsadmin.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">I looked at CSS<\/a>, a Sark payroll company that says rather more on its website than the better known ISS. It says:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.09.20.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-19710\" alt=\"Screen shot 2013-03-18 at 11.09.20\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.09.20.png\" width=\"784\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.09.20.png 784w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.09.20-300x89.png 300w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Screen-shot-2013-03-18-at-11.09.20-200x59.png 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 784px) 100vw, 784px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note point 5. Are they managing payments? I would say so.\u00a0In the UK this would be\u00a0regulated\u00a0activity. In Guernsey it's not clear.<\/p>\n<p>Now, remember\u00a0Guernsey\u00a0is a\u00a0secrecy jurisdiction.\u00a0Secrecy jurisdictions are places that intentionally create regulation for the primary benefit and use of those not resident in their geographical domain. That regulation is designed to undermine the legislation or regulation of another jurisdiction. To facilitate its use secrecy jurisdictions also create a deliberate, legally backed veil of secrecy that ensures that those from outside the jurisdiction making use of its regulation cannot be identified to be doing so. So, of course, it keeps\u00a0regulation\u00a0limiting activity as tight as possible.<\/p>\n<p>I'm not saying CSS or ISS have breached any regulations. I am saying that it looks to me that\u00a0whilst\u00a0Guernsey is\u00a0responsible\u00a0for Sark it has made sure that those undertaking this tax abuse (as it clearly is in the UK) have fallen out of their regulation. That's an act of\u00a0omission\u00a0and not one of commission. But you can be culpable for both and that's\u00a0precisely\u00a0what I am saying Guernsey has been. This UK tax abuse happened because\u00a0Guernsey\u00a0permitted it by an act of\u00a0omission. And yes, I am holding it responsible for that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the weekend the Treasury shut down an\u00a0abusive\u00a0tax\u00a0scheme that was costing \u00a3100 million a year in lost UK national insurance. The scheme depended on employers<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2013\/03\/18\/is-the-sark-paye-lark-guernseys-fault\/\"><em> Read the full article&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-19705","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-guernsey","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19705","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19705"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19705\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19705"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19705"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19705"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}