{"id":18316,"date":"2012-11-23T10:43:31","date_gmt":"2012-11-23T10:43:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/?p=18316"},"modified":"2012-11-23T10:43:31","modified_gmt":"2012-11-23T10:43:31","slug":"jersey-says-its-a-country-this-morning-theres-just-one-problem-for-them-it-isnt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2012\/11\/23\/jersey-says-its-a-country-this-morning-theres-just-one-problem-for-them-it-isnt\/","title":{"rendered":"Jersey says it&#8217;s a country this morning. There&#8217;s just one problem for them. It isn&#8217;t."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jersey has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gov.je\/Government\/Pages\/StatesReports.aspx?ReportID=843\" target=\"_blank\">published a statement on External Relations this morning<\/a>. Whilst its near neighbour\u00a0<a title=\"Guernsey admits it is in the Black Hole I predicted in 2005. Jersey\u2019s still in denial\" href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2012\/11\/23\/guernsey-admits-it-is-in-the-black-hole-i-predicted-in-2005-jerseys-still-in-denial\/\" target=\"_blank\">Guernsey\u00a0begins to realise just\u00a0how\u00a0fragile its economy<\/a> (like Jersey's) is Jersey does instead decide its time to play\u00a0fantasy\u00a0politics.<\/p>\n<p>And this document really does come from the\u00a0realms\u00a0of fantasy. For those old enough to recall the era, much of what Jersey claims would have seemed\u00a0familiar\u00a0to those used to the claims of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Idi_Amin\" target=\"_blank\">late Idi Amin of Uganda<\/a>. Let's start with some of the corkers, like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-09.59.35.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18318\" title=\"Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 09.59.35\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-09.59.35.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"585\" height=\"88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-09.59.35.png 585w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-09.59.35-300x45.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 585px) 100vw, 585px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Let's ignore 'Jersey: it's part in the submission of England' for a minute and lets turn instead to 1204. Who 'elected', might I ask? And what was the mandate? And could we have the\u00a0election\u00a0result? Even more important, can we have any\u00a0evidence\u00a0for this claim? (For those not familiar: there is not a shred of evidence that any of this is true. Jersey claims there is a 1204 Treaty of King John, its only problem being no one has a copy and no one has any evidence it ever existed). And as for the Seal - hasn't every market town got one of those too?<\/p>\n<p>But let's move on to the next whopper:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-10.04.08.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18319\" title=\"Screen shot 2012-11-23 at 10.04.08\" src=\"http:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-10.04.08.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"587\" height=\"103\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-10.04.08.png 587w, https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/11\/Screen-shot-2012-11-23-at-10.04.08-300x52.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 587px) 100vw, 587px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Hang on! Jersey's a country? A quick check of the <a href=\"http:\/\/oxforddictionaries.com\/definition\/english\/country\" target=\"_blank\">Oxford on line dictionary<\/a> suggests a country is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now I don't dispute Jersey is an identifiable territory. Unlike <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2012\/nov\/22\/sandy-island-missing-google-earth\" target=\"_blank\">Sandy Island <\/a>it does exist. But the claim that it has its own governemnt is a joke.<\/p>\n<p>Jersey has a Bailiff appointed by the\u00a0Crown\u00a0(which is, of course, the UK\u00a0government). And its attorney and\u00a0solicitor\u00a0generals are UK appointments - making clear where its judicial system is really located. Its supreme court is the Privy Council. It cannot pass any law without the\u00a0permission\u00a0of the UK, which is withheld when it so chooses. That's not a self\u00a0governing\u00a0place.<\/p>\n<p>More than that though, Jersey is not\u00a0democratic, It does not hold general elections. There is no party system, which is a sign of a democracy. There can be no change of\u00a0government\u00a0as a result of an election. Terms are not consistent between States members. This is no democracy as anyone would know it.<\/p>\n<p>So is Jersey a self governing democratic country? No way!<\/p>\n<p>Which makes all it says about its foreign policy a complete joke. As anyone from a real country reading these claims will realise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jersey has published a statement on External Relations this morning. Whilst its near neighbour\u00a0Guernsey\u00a0begins to realise just\u00a0how\u00a0fragile its economy (like Jersey&#8217;s) is Jersey does instead<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/2012\/11\/23\/jersey-says-its-a-country-this-morning-theres-just-one-problem-for-them-it-isnt\/\"><em> Read the full article&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18316","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-jersey","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18316","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18316"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18316\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18316"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18316"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.taxresearch.org.uk\/Blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18316"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}