Does this require further comment?
The date is 1 January 1973.
Hat tip: Susan Lawson on Twitter
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The Daily Mail is a paper informed by its readers, not informing its readers.
I find it remarkable that they have readers who express the following views:
-I’m really pro-European
-I love the NHS, the way we run the fire service and would support removing VAT on energy
And they think in all seriousness these views are entirely consistent.
I take it that you have seen this?
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/06/mental-meltdown-mail/
I have now
Surely a lot can change in almost 45 years and what was the tight decision then might not be the right decision now?
Do you have the same opinions now as you fund in 1973?
No of ciyrse I don’t on all issues
But suspect when it comes to priciples I do
Of course the Mail would never dig up something from the early 70s to smear anyone.
I wonder what the Daily Mal (sic – mal-informed, mal-intent) would make of the pro-Corbyn chants at Glastonbury and Thom Yorke’s encouragement of Theresa May’s departure?
I have to say that Corbyn’s performance was quite surprisingly powerful.
Yorke spoke of ‘useless politicians’ during Radiohead’s performance.
The tragedy is that progressive (useful) politicians like the Greens and Corbyn’s Labour will remain useless until they can get their hands on some form of power in order to make good things happen..
The really useless ones are in power – useless of course because they are of no use to us but very useful to the corporations, offshore trusts and the 1%. And there are those in the Labour party and Lib Dems who are just as useless for the same reasons.
But seriously – how can such a polarised country possibly work like this? How can we even go for hard BREXIT?
We have focussed a lot on the shortcomings of the Labour party but where are the much vaunted Tory moderates in all of this?
Corbyn is still being portrayed as wanting a socialist utopia – look at Nick Cohen in today’s Observer (he is constrained of course by his ignorance). Yet Labour’s spending plans are very moderate really compared to what those of us on this blog know what could be done.
Our democracy is stymied and it is time for PR.
I am begging mining to think Brexit cannot happen
And you see the risks from the far right
Prof . Murphy:
I too was a fervent advocate of joining the Common Market ever since I started as a young export trainee in 1966. I was overjoyed when we did so. Duties /tariffs tapering to zero on British exports to the Six(?) over five years. There were other benefits but that s really as far as I could see ahead as that meant more (export) sales and more trade viz more money. This in principle still holds today though some argue that over the period the ignominious UK fall from industrial/comnercial grace means UK now runs a trade deficit with the ……..27. There was also the foreseeable prospect of passport free circulation intra region and abolition of capital controls all of which eventuslly came about until the game rules changed with 9/11.
Since we also have had Maastricht , ERM , the Single European Act and the enlargement of the nonstop power accretive unelected Commission under corrupt Santer, authoritarian Delors and demagogic Juncket (sic) and that Portuguese communist who now works for Goldman Sachs ( elegantly orchestrated!) . On the democratic side of the equation we have a theoretical voting chamber called the European Parliament which has achieved what powers it can deploy at a grindingly slow pace, itself riven with internecine feuds and gunwhale-full of corruption dating back at least 20 unaudited complied years , eternally looking as it does for ways to increase the financisl lining of its infrastructural pockets by finding ever widening auras of junket – friendly locations such as Brussels, Strasbourg, Luxembourg and the various six month EU Presidency capitals in which to justify spending higher levels of taxpayer money by travelling thereto / residing thereat for no financially justifiable reason. The EU has morphed into an effectively enslaved peoples whose democratic chamber is in practice a den iof self serving interests acting as rubber stamp for an unelected vampire squid Commission whose legislative -proposal ! words are largely accepted as unopposed law by a cowered Parliament.
When a situation evolves over a 35 year min time horizon from one which pertained then to one which is diametrically its oppodite now , sensible people adapt by exercising the requirement to alter course to avoid the ongoing disaster . What do you do?
I recognise the need for change
But nt at the cost of imposing enormous hardship on the people of the U.K.
Why do you want to do that?
The EU have shown on numerous occasions that they have no intention of changing.
Read tonight’s blog (soon)
Change?
The EU set up is impervious to change.
The octopus will get bigger and better protected. Nobody there cares a jot what any of us thinks. It is a club for insiders. A racket.
Have you ever had to raise a complaint with any EU body in your day job? I have. May as well complain to the cat.
What price do you put on avoid such an arrangement? For me no price is too high.
Then, very politely, you are a fool who is indifferent to the needs of others