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	<title>Comments on: CORRUPTION: Norway Turns the Spotlight on Tax Havens</title>
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	<description>Richard Murphy on tax and corporate accountability</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tax Research UK / Let&#8217;s get real about private capital</title>
		<link>http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2008/07/07/corruption-norway-turns-the-spotlight-on-tax-havens/#comment-462898</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax Research UK / Let&#8217;s get real about private capital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commentator on this site recently said: You talk about money as though wealth is generated by states, rather than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carol Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2008/07/07/corruption-norway-turns-the-spotlight-on-tax-havens/#comment-462030</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QuestionThat, capital is created by labour (using land). Everyone is entitled to the fruits of their own labour and a share in the bounties of nature. It's a great shame that this obvious truth is suppressed.

I too spoke to Richard at the seminar but I'm not ashamed to reveal my own name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QuestionThat, capital is created by labour (using land). Everyone is entitled to the fruits of their own labour and a share in the bounties of nature. It&#8217;s a great shame that this obvious truth is suppressed.</p>
<p>I too spoke to Richard at the seminar but I&#8217;m not ashamed to reveal my own name.</p>
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		<title>By: QuestionThat</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuestionThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(we met (briefly) at the Tax Justice Seminar last week)&lt;/i&gt;

I have one significant problem with the argument you made then and are continuing here.

You talk about money as though wealth is generated by states, rather than capitalists. I know you don't actually think this, but when you say things like &lt;i&gt;"Tax evasion and corruption are believed to cost poor countries at least 50 billion dollars a year."&lt;/i&gt; that's what it sounds like. The 50 billion is based on an idealistic figure predicated on there being no (legal) tax avoidance or (illegal) evasion at all.

So Germany doesn't "lose" $46bn - it fails to gain $46 billion. That might sound semantic, but it's an important difference. If the businesses you attack didn't exist, Germany wouldn't be better off!</description>
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<p>I have one significant problem with the argument you made then and are continuing here.</p>
<p>You talk about money as though wealth is generated by states, rather than capitalists. I know you don&#8217;t actually think this, but when you say things like <i>&#8220;Tax evasion and corruption are believed to cost poor countries at least 50 billion dollars a year.&#8221;</i> that&#8217;s what it sounds like. The 50 billion is based on an idealistic figure predicated on there being no (legal) tax avoidance or (illegal) evasion at all.</p>
<p>So Germany doesn&#8217;t &#8220;lose&#8221; $46bn - it fails to gain $46 billion. That might sound semantic, but it&#8217;s an important difference. If the businesses you attack didn&#8217;t exist, Germany wouldn&#8217;t be better off!</p>
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